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Mohamed Eid
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 15, 2008 - 04:30 AM
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Miss. FaerieGirl, What I believe “women in empowerment” means women to be available in every where and become cheap. In my point of view, women are expensive and had been kept like a diamond, we know diamond can’t be found out easily and not laid on unprotected places. Women are not same like men; there are a lot of variations among these genders in physically and mentally, may be one another better than the another one of that areas. The more women are available in every where the more vulnerable are on any of violence.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 15, 2008 - 10:15 PM
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EI wrote:
Miss. FaerieGirl, What I believe “women in empowerment” means women to be available in every where and become cheap. In my point of view, women are expensive and had been kept like a diamond, we know diamond can’t be found out easily and not laid on unprotected places. Women are not same like men; there are a lot of variations among these genders in physically and mentally, may be one another better than the another one of that areas. The more women are available in every where the more vulnerable are on any of violence.
I don't think I really grasp your point, and I would not want to have a wrong idea of what you said.
Can you please explain it further?
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 16, 2008 - 01:11 AM
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Can you please explain it further?
Alright, let me put into soft way, what I do mean really is to express here that the phenomena behind women empowerment beyond this international campaign struggling to empower women in political. We can empower women in other fields like education, self-sufficient, financial status etc. What I believe women empowerment in political it is not good for women to lead men. Men leadership in the world is natural; men have more persistence, physical and mental power than women. Women feel security when they are under-protection of men
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 16, 2008 - 11:41 AM
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EI wrote:
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Can you please explain it further?
Alright, let me put into soft way, what I do mean really is to express here that the phenomena behind women empowerment beyond this international campaign struggling to empower women in political. We can empower women in other fields like education, self-sufficient, financial status etc. What I believe women empowerment in political it is not good for women to lead men. Men leadership in the world is natural; men have more persistence, physical and mental power than women. Women feel security when they are under-protection of men
So, if we put both of your both texts together, you consider a woman cheap if she stands in a high spot of public administration to look for the benefits of her men and women?
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 17, 2008 - 02:14 AM
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Of course, you get my point. I will post on soon Insha Allah, role of women in Islam and how has been misleading on the right trade in regards to the other corner. I heard alot of campaign encourage women all over the world even my country that stepping forward rapidly. I will make some research. We'll talk about later. Thanks your active participation.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 18, 2008 - 03:04 AM
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I take diffrent view in this matter. one I feel that politic has become so much durty that we realy don't need our women to be part of. I believe that political motivation and empowerment will not give women that voice we are dealy seeking. there are some other ways like empowering women in be economically giant, ideally right now as we speak rightful thinking person will see that politics nolonger hold that power and significance, there are mayhem and corruption that gallowing in all political arena. To me I feel that politics is a transitional arena that building your world on it, is wastage of time. I would like to see women being economical tigers and then they will have voice because politician will seek them for help financialy and that is when they will have voice because they will dictate to them what they should do.
I have been doing reaserch on gender perspective and my finding on what sustainable approach that can assist our women to be recorgnise and have voice and influence in our society be it in politic, environment, or any other socio-economic activities is to enreach them with economic claw not not the political one.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 21, 2008 - 05:55 AM
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Okay.
According to you, it is not good for different reasons for women to make decisions concerning men.
What about women making decisions for women?
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 21, 2008 - 10:17 AM
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Women empowerment can be achieved by gender mainstreaming in politics and education.
Gender mainstreaming means taking account of gender equality concerns in all policy, programme, administrative and financial activities, and in organisational procedures, thereby, contributing to organisational transformation. gender mainstreaming is not an end in itself but a means to an end. The goal of gender mainstreaming is gender equality through bringing about fundamental changes in the structures and systems that create unequal power relations between women and men.
A very important aspect of gender mainstreaming is that it does not mean only having an equal number of women and men in the organisation or supporting programmes exclusively for women, although it includes these aspects. Gender mainstreaming implies including women but does not imply excluding men.
Incorporating this practice in education will surely develop women and men with more equitable point of views, putting into practice those beliefs and learnings in order to end gender inequalities in all levels, may it be domestic or public.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 05:02 AM
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This idea of man and women are equal is an idea based on poor judgment, there is no way that man and women can be equal, one another should complement to other one, but it is not possible that women can have physical structure and the more resistance of man when it comes hard technical work. I see so many women pretending and following foot step of man in order to cast that they could enable to handle every job that man can do, but they are getting in trouble their souls. I believe this gender mainstreaming is a trick intended women to enforce tasks that man are better than women and will be allocated to do much, they will know later. Though now can be available many women understand the phenomena beyond this gender equality idea, though other hand exist many women lobby gender equality.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 08:55 AM
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Hi El,
Actually, the whole point of gender mainstreaming is not making men and women equal, but making them have access to the same opportunities. Gender mainstreaming acknowledges that men and women are different.
I am sure you are aware that sex and gender are completely different concepts. What mainstreaming wants to break is the idea that the gender woman is not fit for a public political sphere. Obviously the sex male and female have biological and physical differences, however, the cultural, moral and values built around the female sex is want has to change.
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Mohamed Eid
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 12:12 PM
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Hi Lulukabrasi,
I agree with you the point that men and women could have same access to the opportunity, I agree other aspect that women have right to be empowered, but the political is something different it is a huge responsibility that women could not have capability to run off. Although, there are a lot of women involve the upper political leadership in some countries, but in anyhow they could not mange things as men manage things.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 12:25 PM
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EI wrote:
Hi Lulukabrasi,
I agree with you the point that men and women could have same access to the opportunity, I agree other aspect that women have right to be empowered, but the political is something different it is a huge responsibility that women could not have capability to run off. Although, there are a lot of women involve the upper political leadership in some countries, but in anyhow they could not mange things as men manage things.
That's very interesting, El. Why do you consider that women do not possess the capabilities to get involved in something related to politics?
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 12:47 PM
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Hi El,
What do you mean by capability?
As well as men, women have demonstrated to be as efficient and effective in negotiating in political scenario.
The problem is that the historical duties built around the role women should play in the society, puts her into a less favourable place. Who says that women sould only be involved in home economics affairs?
In recent years, we have increasing numbers of women involved in politics. Just take a look at South America, for example.
Women have always demonstrated multiskilling.
I suppose what you have built regarding the female gender, cannot allow you to have a broader view on how women can improve and play a key actor in development and political activities.
Based on what do you believe we are not capable of that? Of bringing considerable changes in the international/national society?
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 04:44 PM
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For those of you who believe women are not capable of leading men or not smart enough, good enough or dependable enough to make good leaders, please tell us why? I am very confused as to how anyone could think that women can not be effective political leaders.
And before anyone points to examples of great male political leaders, I could easily point to just as many poor, corrupt, dishonest, ineffective and unintelligent male leaders. So, examples of good leader is not a credible reason.
Perhaps men are afraid of women in positions of power? Perhaps men recognize that women can do just as well what they can do but are afraid of losing their power by acknowledging it?
There is absolutely NO biological evidence that women have any lower mental capacities than men. Our brains may be slightly different (such as women have greater corpus callosums) but nothing related to intelligence. So, men who are against giving women political power or empowerment in other arenas, please speak up with evidence.
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Re: Empowering Women and Politics
July 22, 2008 - 07:05 PM
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In my mind, to increase women's political participation, it is important to empower them with knowledge and skills. Well educated women are more likely to enter politics and successfully compete in it with their male colleagues. Good education and targeted training help women build self-confidence empowering them to see themselves as equal partners to men and as important contributors to socio-political and economic life of their societies. It is also much harder to deny access to politics to well educated and skilled women. For instance, men are less likely to dismiss an educated woman as a candidate for a decision-making position or a partner in politics when they see a strong women with a great potential of winning, which is particularly important for party politics. Therefore,international organizations and donors, as well as government institutions, should invest in women's education and targeted training programs to achieve gender equality in politics.
Additionally, it is important to create a forum for women to express their ideas and views as well as raise their concerns globally. Since online resources, such as discussion forums and blogs, became important tools to succeed in modern politics, women should use them to their benefit. Through such online tools, women can share their views and suggestions in regards to a particular social policy, announce their political stance on an important societal issue, advocate for changes in their society or communities, or simply promote their candidacies for upcoming elections. Such forums should create opportunities for women not only to reach out to their constituents and followers, but also learn from the examples of others. For instance, a woman leader or a candidate may find motivation and strength to continue her work in politics after hearing about success stories of others and may take a new approach to her role in politics and public life.
I would highly recommend visiting the International Knowledge Network of Women in Politics (iKNOW Politics) website at www.iknowpolitics.org. This network provides access to hundreds of free resources on women's political participation through its online library; allows women and their supporters to share their experiences and thoughts through discussion circles and forums; and provides expertise on questions related to the advancement of women in politics through the Experts Network .
Looking forward to hearing more thoughts and opinions from the participants of this blog.
Best Regards,
Bahar Salimova
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